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[Frama-c-discuss] Alt Ergo - Problem

  • Subject: [Frama-c-discuss] Alt Ergo - Problem
  • From: dwheeler at (David A. Wheeler)
  • Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2015 16:45:25 -0400 (EDT)
  • In-reply-to: <>

> On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:03:26PM +0200, Pascal Cuoq wrote:
> > The usual logic rules do not apply in a C program in presence of undefined
> > behavior.

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 22:29:04 +0200, Kurt Roeckx <kurt at> wrote:
> Just to clarify this, the compiler will assume you did not do
> something that creates undefined behaviour, so it assumes that in
> case of a (signed) int x that x * x does not overflow, and so that
> if x >= 0 then x * x must be >= 0.

Yes.  Sadly, it's really easy to do something that is undefined in C
(a lot of things you THINK would be defined are not).

Some C compilers have flags that can detect many of these cases.
In particular, both gcc and LLVM have a lot of "-fsanitize=...." options
that turn on runtime checks, and some of them can help you detect problems like this.
LLVM has "-fsanitize=unsigned-integer-overflow" for detecting unsigned integer overflows,
and both gcc and LLVM have "-fsanitize=undefined" that detect MANY such cases.

Some places for more info:

--- David A. Wheeler