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[Frama-c-discuss] What is the point of ``All models'' in Alt-Ergo?
- Subject: [Frama-c-discuss] What is the point of ``All models'' in Alt-Ergo?
- From: Claude.Marche at inria.fr (Claude Marché)
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:40:33 +0100
- In-reply-to: <20160127033646.GA26241@ritchie.cas.mcmaster.ca>
- References: <CAF4e-oCWubz14EXnUD4jiwSvBNvzJGUc8jbs3HrWx8_8hTvb2w@mail.gmail.com> <2277B6B7-E216-4603-9C1B-E22660EEF9B4@cea.fr> <20160127033646.GA26241@ritchie.cas.mcmaster.ca>
By default, to prove a goal from a set of hypotheses, Alt-Ergo negates the goal and attempts to establish unsatisfiability. With the experimental and undocument options related to "models", the goal is not negated anymore, hence the wrong results you get. They are not supposed to be used from Frama-C or Why3. Curiosity is of course good for research, but remember that sometimes experiments can produce a "boom". - Claude Le 27/01/2016 04:36, Wolfram Kahl a écrit : > Since I cannot find Alt-Ergo documentation nor mailing list, > I ask this question here, since I am using it only from Frama-C: > What is the point of the ``All models'' option in Alt-Ergo? > With that enabled (I am using it via the GUI as started from > WP-goals in Frama-C), it has no trouble to decide > > //@ lemma falsum: 0 == 1; > > as ``Valid (0.01s)''. > > (Without that option, it only says ``I don't know (sat) (0.01s)'', > which I still consider as a rather weak answer...) > > The closest I found to documentation is the help flag: > > alt-ergo -h > > produces > > -all-models experimental support for all models > -model experimental support for models on labeled terms > -complete-model experimental support for complete model > > , but I don't quite know how I am supposed to understand these --- > is validity of falsum a result of the experimental nature of these, > or is it by design of ``all models''? > > $ alt-ergo -version > 0.99.1 > > > Wolfram > _______________________________________________ > Frama-c-discuss mailing list > Frama-c-discuss at lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/mailman/listinfo/frama-c-discuss > -- Claude Marché | tel: +33 1 69 15 66 08 INRIA Saclay - Ãle-de-France | Université Paris-sud, Bat. 650 | http://www.lri.fr/~marche/ F-91405 ORSAY Cedex |
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