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[Frama-c-discuss] don't want unitialized padding fields, -initialized-padding-globals



Hello,

Thank you Boris for the explanations.
To make progress on our process we are modifying struct definitions to make disappear these padding elts.

Regard,

St?phane



From: Frama-c-discuss [mailto:frama-c-discuss-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Boris Yakobowski
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 2:23 PM
To: Frama-C public discussion
Subject: Re: [Frama-c-discuss] don't want unitialized padding fields, -initialized-padding-globals

Hello St?phane,

Is there a workaround to have the entire location at  [--..--] ? Even for very large variables ?

Not currently. There is an upper limit on the number of bytes that can be initialized using a specification, to avoid problematic analysis time.

Hello Pascal,

You example is also working well also on my side.

But the result is different with these options:


The difference you observe is due to option -lib-entry. Padding bits in the initial state are handled in very different ways, depending on whether -lib-entry is set or not. We are aware of the current semantics, which may indeed be problematic for some use cases. There have been some changes in the way padding bits are treated in the Sodium version of Frama-C, but only when copying structs.

Hope this helps,

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:27 PM, DUPRAT, STEPHANE <stephane.duprat at atos.net<mailto:stephane.duprat at atos.net>> wrote:
Hello,

Shall I post this to the tracker ?

St?phane

From: Frama-c-discuss [mailto:frama-c-discuss-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:frama-c-discuss-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of DUPRAT, STEPHANE
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:33 PM

To: Frama-C public discussion
Subject: Re: [Frama-c-discuss] don't want unitialized padding fields, -initialized-padding-globals

Hello Pascal,

You example is also working well also on my side.

But the result is different with these options:

frama-c -val t.c -main f1 -val-warn-copy-indeterminate @all -pp-annot -no-val-show-initial-state -initialized-padding-globals -lib-entry -no-unicode -continue-annot-error -context-valid-pointers -context-depth 2 -context-width 1 -val-print-callstacks -slevel 400

[value] ====== VALUES COMPUTED ======
[value] Values at end of function f1:
  Frama_C_entropy_source IN [--..--]
  Gtab1[0].a[0..2] IN [--..--]
       [0].[bits 24 to 31] IN [--..--] or UNINITIALIZED
       {[0].b; [1].a[0..2]} IN [--..--]
       [1].[bits 24 to 31] IN [--..--] or UNINITIALIZED
       {[1].b; [2].a[0..2]} IN [--..--]

Regards,

St?phane


From: Frama-c-discuss [mailto:frama-c-discuss-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Pascal Cuoq
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 1:25 PM
To: Frama-C public discussion
Subject: Re: [Frama-c-discuss] don't want unitialized padding fields, -initialized-padding-globals

It works for me. Did you provide the specification for Frama_C_make_unknown that David gave? It doesn't work if it's not provided.


~ $ cat t.c

int Frama_C_entropy_source;



typedef unsigned long size_t;



/*@ requires \valid(p + (0 .. l-1));

    assigns p[0 .. l-1] \from Frama_C_entropy_source;

    assigns Frama_C_entropy_source \from Frama_C_entropy_source;

    ensures \initialized(p + (0 .. l-1));

*/

void Frama_C_make_unknown(char *p, size_t l);



typedef struct {

  char a[3];

  int b;

} T_S1;



typedef T_S1 T_T1[1000];



T_T1 Gtab1;

T_T1 Gtab_witness;

T_S1 G2;



void f1(T_S1* p1)

{

  Frama_C_make_unknown(Gtab1, sizeof(T_T1));

  Frama_C_make_unknown(&G2, sizeof(T_S1));

  Frama_C_dump_each();

}



~ $ frama-c -val t.c -main f1

?

[value] DUMPING STATE of file t.c line 27

        Frama_C_entropy_source ? [--..--]

        Gtab1[0..999] ? [--..--]

        Gtab_witness[0..999] ? {0}

        G2 ? [--..--]

        p1 ? {‌{ NULL ; &S_p1[0] }‌}

        S_p1[0].a[0..2] ? [--..--]

            [0].[bits 24 to 31] ? UNINITIALIZED

            {[0].b; [1].a[0..2]} ? [--..--]

            [1].[bits 24 to 31] ? UNINITIALIZED

            [1].b ? [--..--]

        =END OF DUMP==



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